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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.knuetter.com/christian/2009/06/11/weve-redesigned-so-you-can-get-to-the-good-stuff-first/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ll admit - when I say &quot;who designs this stuff?&quot; I don&#039;t really mean the designer - I mean who&#039;s responsible for these decisions?  So no intentional slams on the designers.  I know - my bad.  I should choose my words more wisely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What bothers me is the useless page - I don&#039;t buy the Advertisement argument.  They serve ads alongside my emails - and it&#039;s can&#039;t be about pageviews either because each email I read just refreshes the view rather than reloading the page.  I&#039;d almost prefer a reloaded page to boost page views over a useless interstitial page.  At the very least they could reload the ads with each email to boost the numbers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I&#039;m complaining about is this: On MyYahoo I can see a preview of my email - where I can see a snippet of the FROM and the SUBJECT.  I then have to click through to a page where I can&#039;t even see that - only to click to another page to then see the full FROMs and SUBJECTS.  An additional click to choose one of the emails finally gets me to my content.  That&#039;s just not a great experience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wouldn&#039;t know about the messenger client - I refuse to use those (yahoo, aim, etc.,) because of their annoying ads - granted AOL was MUCH worse than Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#39;ll admit &#8211; when I say &#8220;who designs this stuff?&#8221; I don&#39;t really mean the designer &#8211; I mean who&#39;s responsible for these decisions?  So no intentional slams on the designers.  I know &#8211; my bad.  I should choose my words more wisely.</p>
<p>What bothers me is the useless page &#8211; I don&#39;t buy the Advertisement argument.  They serve ads alongside my emails &#8211; and it&#39;s can&#39;t be about pageviews either because each email I read just refreshes the view rather than reloading the page.  I&#39;d almost prefer a reloaded page to boost page views over a useless interstitial page.  At the very least they could reload the ads with each email to boost the numbers.</p>
<p>What I&#39;m complaining about is this: On MyYahoo I can see a preview of my email &#8211; where I can see a snippet of the FROM and the SUBJECT.  I then have to click through to a page where I can&#39;t even see that &#8211; only to click to another page to then see the full FROMs and SUBJECTS.  An additional click to choose one of the emails finally gets me to my content.  That&#39;s just not a great experience.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#39;t know about the messenger client &#8211; I refuse to use those (yahoo, aim, etc.,) because of their annoying ads &#8211; granted AOL was MUCH worse than Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: davecort</title>
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		<dc:creator>davecort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? It&#039;s all about the money. Yahoo! Mail displays an LRECT ad on that &quot;What&#039;s New&quot; page, which generates a significant amount of the ad revenue for the product. You can think of it as simply an interstitial ad page with some additional content thrown on it to mask the fact that they&#039;re really just pushing an ad on you. The same goes for the &quot;Yahoo Insider&quot; window that comes up on sign in of Yahoo Messenger.&lt;/cynical&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for who designs it, it&#039;s Greg Rosenberg. Go easy on the guy. He gets his marching orders from the top. The dude fought pretty hard against the quantity-over-quality ad folks at Yahoo. He&#039;s a good one. &lt;a href=&quot;http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-inside-yahoo-greg-rosenberg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-in...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? It&#39;s all about the money. Yahoo! Mail displays an LRECT ad on that &#8220;What&#39;s New&#8221; page, which generates a significant amount of the ad revenue for the product. You can think of it as simply an interstitial ad page with some additional content thrown on it to mask the fact that they&#39;re really just pushing an ad on you. The same goes for the &#8220;Yahoo Insider&#8221; window that comes up on sign in of Yahoo Messenger.&lt;/cynical&gt;</p>
<p>As for who designs it, it&#39;s Greg Rosenberg. Go easy on the guy. He gets his marching orders from the top. The dude fought pretty hard against the quantity-over-quality ad folks at Yahoo. He&#39;s a good one. <a href="http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-inside-yahoo-greg-rosenberg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-in.." rel="nofollow">http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-in..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Knuetter</title>
		<link>http://www.knuetter.com/christian/2009/06/11/weve-redesigned-so-you-can-get-to-the-good-stuff-first/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Knuetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ll admit - when I say &quot;who designs this stuff?&quot; I don&#039;t really mean the designer - I mean who&#039;s responsible for these decisions?  So no intentional slams on the designers.  I know - my bad.  I should choose my words more wisely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What bothers me is the useless page - I don&#039;t buy the Advertisement argument.  They serve ads alongside my emails - and it&#039;s can&#039;t be about pageviews either because each email I read just refreshes the view rather than reloading the page.  I&#039;d almost prefer a reloaded page to boost page views over a useless interstitial page.  At the very least they could reload the ads with each email to boost the numbers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I&#039;m complaining about is this: On MyYahoo I can see a preview of my email - where I can see a snippet of the FROM and the SUBJECT.  I then have to click through to a page where I can&#039;t even see that - only to click to another page to then see the full FROMs and SUBJECTS.  An additional click to choose one of the emails finally gets me to my content.  That&#039;s just not a great experience.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wouldn&#039;t know about the messenger client - I refuse to use those (yahoo, aim, etc.,) because of their annoying ads - granted AOL was MUCH worse than Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#39;ll admit &#8211; when I say &#8220;who designs this stuff?&#8221; I don&#39;t really mean the designer &#8211; I mean who&#39;s responsible for these decisions?  So no intentional slams on the designers.  I know &#8211; my bad.  I should choose my words more wisely.</p>
<p>What bothers me is the useless page &#8211; I don&#39;t buy the Advertisement argument.  They serve ads alongside my emails &#8211; and it&#39;s can&#39;t be about pageviews either because each email I read just refreshes the view rather than reloading the page.  I&#39;d almost prefer a reloaded page to boost page views over a useless interstitial page.  At the very least they could reload the ads with each email to boost the numbers.</p>
<p>What I&#39;m complaining about is this: On MyYahoo I can see a preview of my email &#8211; where I can see a snippet of the FROM and the SUBJECT.  I then have to click through to a page where I can&#39;t even see that &#8211; only to click to another page to then see the full FROMs and SUBJECTS.  An additional click to choose one of the emails finally gets me to my content.  That&#39;s just not a great experience.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#39;t know about the messenger client &#8211; I refuse to use those (yahoo, aim, etc.,) because of their annoying ads &#8211; granted AOL was MUCH worse than Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Cortright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Cortright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? It&#039;s all about the money. Yahoo! Mail displays an LRECT ad on that &quot;What&#039;s New&quot; page, which generates a significant amount of the ad revenue for the product. You can think of it as simply an interstitial ad page with some additional content thrown on it to mask the fact that they&#039;re really just pushing an ad on you. The same goes for the &quot;Yahoo Insider&quot; window that comes up on sign in of Yahoo Messenger.&lt;/cynical&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for who designs it, it&#039;s Greg Rosenberg. Go easy on the guy. He gets his marching orders from the top. The dude fought pretty hard against the quantity-over-quality ad folks at Yahoo. He&#039;s a good one. &lt;a href=&quot;http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-inside-yahoo-greg-rosenberg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-in...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? It&#39;s all about the money. Yahoo! Mail displays an LRECT ad on that &#8220;What&#39;s New&#8221; page, which generates a significant amount of the ad revenue for the product. You can think of it as simply an interstitial ad page with some additional content thrown on it to mask the fact that they&#39;re really just pushing an ad on you. The same goes for the &#8220;Yahoo Insider&#8221; window that comes up on sign in of Yahoo Messenger.&lt;/cynical&gt;</p>
<p>As for who designs it, it&#39;s Greg Rosenberg. Go easy on the guy. He gets his marching orders from the top. The dude fought pretty hard against the quantity-over-quality ad folks at Yahoo. He&#39;s a good one. <a href="http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-inside-yahoo-greg-rosenberg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-in.." rel="nofollow">http://unraveled.com/archives/2009/04/design-in..</a>.</p>
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